Concept destruction vs battle wiki2/24/2023 I won't talk about the meme of Seiya being able to destroy a continent because he made a hole of a few meters in the ground at the beginning of his manga. If members valued depiction, this problem wouldn't exist. And you don't even have the feel you tasted pudding.Ītomizations and subatomizations, earthquakes, lightning dodges, bullet dodging (or stopping), dimensional pockets with stars in them, and sayings without calcable proof should be instantly classified as outliers unless the character have a second unquestionable feat of such level (nothing decided arbitrarily), and retroactively added info should have a different tier.īecause again, the feats are written by people who have no idea how big the feat is in real life and give a totally different level of power to the character the rest of the time, which is the textbook definition of an outlier. The guy who did the calculation takes a telescope to look at a pudding and is amazed at his findings, and when you go to the character's page expecting to see a pudding, you see pudding molecules with the guy who did the calculation next to them saying "here's your 65% H20 molecules mixed with C, H, O, N, P, bon appétit" and you wonder what went on in their heads to disconnect them from the reality of the situation to that extent. These kinds of calculations should require a "possibly" next to the tier if they are to be used. And I question the fact that a staff member accepted the calculation because "The calculator played it safe, I think we can use it". I question the fact that a calculation CANNOT be relevant to the author's vision of his character when you go to such a level of detail in something that is not about anything concrete and verifiable that happened in the work, but just a sentence thrown in. I'm not questioning the consistency of the result found with the other feats in the verse, I'm not criticizing the guy who calculated this, nor the staff member who accepted it. Or as extrapolated as " This character is said to hit like a small, extremely fast meteor, so I'll take the definition of small and extremely and do my math on that completely." if a character cuts a tree trunk in one stroke with an axe, finding the width of a typical axe blade and using that works.ĭisagree when it's just as arbitrary as " Since this destruction was achieved by a rush of attacks, I divide the result by 20 at the end". Okay when you rely on things that actually exist to find missing information, e.g. I can't even count the number of calculations that include elements arbitrarily taken because they are considered "fair nuff". Taking liberties in the calculations should automatically force a likely or a possibly on the tiers of every character who scale, and some should get straight up unusable for it And that says how much of a problem it can get when it’s constantly ignored. If the author came on the site and gave a tier list of the characters directly, it's those stats and not others that should be represented on the profiles besides any calculation or powerscaling (unless it directly contradicts his or her work), and depiction is the way an author says the stats of the characters without words, that's how important it is. If you were the author, would you have envisioned your character being so fast? Does the author take into account this mach 400 speed feat afterwards or does he continue to stay on his supersonic base? Or was there actually a Mach 400 feat at all or is it the result of a calc which relies on arbitrarily chosen values? (I'll come back to this later)ĭepiction is what determines how the author sees his character and it is what determines what is an outlier or not, above any other rule. If the author shows that his characters are impressive because they are supersonic but one of them has a feat at mach 400, you should use the supersonic feats prior. That's why depiction is important, you have to think about what the author wanted to represent and you have to know the work for which you are doing your calculations. Ironically enough, depiction is in fact absurdly important.Ĭalculations based on real-world physics are used to estimate the stats of fictional characters, these characters were written by people who, most of the time, are not aware of such rules or under/overestimate them, which can lead to feats with very exaggerated results compared to what was supposedly intended by the author.
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